We've got characters in the UK like Boris Johnson, who's kind of like a proto Trump in many ways even down to the crazy blonde hair. Then Mayor of London, now Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson was widely seen as a cartoonish oaf and that made him strangely undentable as a politician. No one could land a blow on him because he was already ridiculous.
I'm actually quite pro-technology, but I'm a worrier, so I like to envision worst-case scenarios.
We take things that would have struck us as miraculous five years ago for granted. Like Pokémon Go would have been insane, and now it's just like, "Oh, okay."
What happens often is the script is written and once the director comes on board you have lots of conversations and it mutates again.
I'm known as being a massive dweeb who's into video games and so on.
I'm not some anti-technology person. I think it's often how people would assume that if they don't know me.
In Britain people might know me more for my comedy writing background, things like that.
People gravitate towards their own era, nostalgia therapy is a real thing that's being tinkered with.
The logic for me, in writing it is that the different areas or different years are almost like different rooms.
Men Against Jive is a brilliant title! That's a military story, that's a difficult one to explain really because that's sort of a war... it's not just a war story.
Generally I know that we've hit on a good idea if there's a moment where I'm going "HA HA HA!" because that's usually my starting point, me laughing.
What is useful about when there is a sort of pull-out to reveal moment going on is that it actually focuses the mind when you're writing the earlier scenes because you're thinking 'right, how do I? I can only show this amount of the room... I can only show these characters from the waist up because they've all got robot legs!' it's a challenge so it keeps you engaged on some level.
Obviously, you try not to repeat yourself so that forces you to re-evaluate what you're doing constantly [in Black Mirror].
[Black Mirror] is always about unforeseen consequences and unforeseen problems, it's not usually that someone's created a machine that they want to enslave mankind with, it's someone's invented a new kind of... paperweight that enslaves mankind.
Overall, looking at the stories [Black Mirror], almost every story we've ever done is concerned with authenticity or reality in some way.
That's not something that we've gone in thinking 'Right! How are we going to examine that now?' It's just when you take a step back you see that they're actually all sort of in that mode.
What we were also trying to do is vary the tone slightly across the season of Black Mirror, because there are six stories this time around, so you don't want it to just be the devastating, bleak-em-up.
What are people going to expect when they sit down to watch a new episode of Black Mirror? And what you're going to expect is somebody with a translucent TV in a drone strike and a robot walking by... or frowning at a phone and going 'aaah! Oh no! I've just deleted my own leg!' or whatever. So I thought well, let's not do that.
I kept saying I want to do an episode that's set in the past, how do we do a period episode of Black Mirror? And simultaneously there was another idea we were thinking about and the two things sort of gelled and became San Junipero.
Technology isn't the villain and the people aren't often really the villain so much as they're weak.
I mean, sometimes we do do that, The National Anthem was a caustic satire and sometimes that's the way to go with the story rather than me being particularly misanthropic.
I'm trying to think overall. Some of our stories [Black Mirror], I think you're right in that they don't tend to have a message.
I tried to be all intellectual and erudite and with others I'd just swear and curse and be an idiot. And suddenly, when they're all in one space, I don't know who I am.
Online you're encouraged to perform one personality for everyone.
My theory is that we used to have several personalities, and now we're encouraged to have one online.
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