What I worry about is climate change, because that would have untold effects that we can't even measure yet.
There is no degree of human suffering which in and of itself is going to bring about change. Only organisation can change things.
This erosion of the middle class is happening all over the place. The opening of a wider gap between rich and poor is always accompanied by such a process.
If the economy becomes disembodied from society it can only lead to disaster.
The Sierra Club in the United States has now really come out for population control and reduction.
As the rich consume more and more, they are clearly not going to want to downgrade their own status.
Debt is such a powerful tool, it is such a useful tool, it's much better than colonialism ever was because you can keep control without having an army, without having a whole administration.
How do we get democracy at the international level? That's our problem. and it's essentially the same problem people faced in the 18th Century when they tried to get democracy nationally. Now we need it internationally.
The real fight is about what should be in the marketplace and what should not. Should education be a marketable commodity? Should healthcare?
There's people coming in who've never done any politics at all, who've never been in a trade union, they've never been in a political party, they've never done anything, but they do feel a kind of urgency.
Having enough to eat, being able to educate your children, have reasonably stable employment, and being able to live in a society which isn't collapsing around you-all of these things have been generally eroded.
Now we are flying off into outer space, there is no clear curb on what can be done in the name of the economy.
Markets cant think about anything beyond about three months. This is very long-term for markets, which is why the important things in life have got to be taken outside of the marketplace.
The World Bank is now the biggest culprit in the debt crisis.
It seems to be the thing now that young people are getting back into politics.
What it missing, I think, is this notion of the common good.
The question is not only what is grown but what it's used for. There's not going to be a mass transformation of dietary habits in rich countries-on the contrary, the first thing people do when they become more prosperous is to buy more meat.
If you cut down a forest, it doesn't matter how many sawmills you have if there are no more trees.
The World Development Movement, to take just one example, is doing good work. Some political parties are, too.
If we wait for the U.S. to do something, we will be waiting for a very long time. It's Europe, it's Australia, it's the other developed and middle developing countries that have got to do the job.
Much of what is called investment is actually nothing more than mergers and acquisitions, and of course mergers and acquisitions are generally accompanied by downsizing.
I was recently looking at what they can actually do to reduce consumption of petrol. It would be quite possible to build automobiles out of carbon fibre that would be just as strong, weigh 10 times less and consume 10 times less petrol.
Subsidize... or lend.
What you need if you want jobs are small and medium sized enterprises, local initiatives, labour intensive work, community development, service providers and the like.
There are a lot of people who don't contribute anything to consumption and production.
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