• The interesting point is that the polarization is not so much among the public, although there's some of that. The polarization on the immigration issue is really between the elites and the public. In other words, this is not so much a right-left issue, which it is partly.

    "A Closer Look At Obama Administration's Controversial Deportation Plans". "All Things Considered" with Michel Martin, December 26, 2015.
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