• You know, there's a growing level of disenchantment with governing institutions in Brazil. And in a sense, it's a healthy development because you have investigators and prosecutors going to work and finding out these things and revealing them to the public. But as a result, you have a lot of growing distrust in the way that government functions in Brazil.

    "Brazil's Former President Questioned In Corruption Investigation". "All Things Considered" with Audie Cornish, March 4, 2016.