• Marshal Petain's Vichy regime looked like that new start. A couple of years later, it wasn't so evident that he was going to be able to protect them from German extortions, and it didn't look so much as though they had won the war, either. And so by '43, a lot of people are shifting sides.

    "War Crime Investigations Among France's Release Of Vichy Documents". "All Things Considered" with Robert Siegel, December 29, 2015.