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  • You know, yes, you can always argue that a backdoor can be built that's more secure, you know, and more difficult to get to and only law enforcement's going to get there. But nobody in the field of security believes that's ultimately going to provide this same protection that a tight end-to-end solution has without a backdoor.

    "The Cybersecurity Argument For And Against Device Encryption". "Weekend Edition Saturday" with Linda Wertheimer, www.npr.org. December 26, 2015.