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  • We all want to believe this American pastoral, but there's more to it. We have to be willing to exile ourselves from the fantasies and the mythology that we create around ourselves, or we're doomed to kind of innocently blunder into every country in the world and murder people.

    "The Rumpus Long Interview with Bill Ayers". Interview with Scott Hutchins, therumpus.net. February 20, 2009.