• If you look at national economies today, for example, the American economy, the European economy, the Indians, the Chinese, we're all tied together. If one of them sinks, the rest are going to sink with them and if one floats, the rest are lifted up. I find that very interesting.

    "Frans de Waal on Politics, Fairness, and Human Nature". Interview with Eric Michael Johnson, July 14, 2011.
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