• At least I've had to come to that in my life, to realize that this stuff called failure, this stuff, this debris of historical trauma, family trauma, you know, stuff that can kill your spirit, is actually raw material to make things with and to build a bridge. You can use those materials to build a bridge over that which would destroy you.

    "Joy Harjo's 'Crazy Brave' Path To Finding Her Voice". "Talk of the Nation" with Neal Conan, July 9, 2012.