I mean, there's no arguing. There is no anything. There is no beating around the bush. 'You're fired' is a very strong term.
We have to change that whole system [of veterans support]. It starts with management. We have to have a whole different set of protocols. And we have to get people off the lines.
When Wikileaks came out... never heard of Wikileaks, never heard of it. When Wikileaks came out, all I was just saying is, "Well, look at all this information here, this is pretty good stuff." They tried to hack the Republican, the RNC, but we had good defenses. They didn't have defenses, which is pretty bad management. But we had good defenses, they tried to hack both of them. They weren't able to get through to Republicans. No, I found it very interesting when I read this stuff and I said, "Wow." It was just a figure of speech. I said, "Well, look at this. It's good reading".
Well, yes, I've fired a lot of people. Generally I like other people to fire, because it's always a lousy task. But I have fired many people.
Good people equals good management and good management equals good people.
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