I like loud electric guitars because I like how you can just lose your entire being in the sound. But I can't find myself in a situation where our band Swans is doing typical chord progressions - it just seems cliché to me. Even changing chords sounds like a cliché sometimes, though it happens occasionally in our music. But you find ways to push yourself into the sound through repetition. It doesn't stay the same. It morphs constantly.
At a certain age, children are total Id - they're anything but beautiful little flowers. That always interests me. The place where the ego and the superego start, and where guilt and socialization and morality takes place, the true root of it.
It's good that people come to the shows because there's nothing fashionable about Swans. Never has been, really. We've never been part of a scene. So the people that come are really there for the music. Fortunately, there's a lot of young people and a burgeoning female contingent, which is good as well.
I'm pretty confident that people are going to come along for the ride. If they don't, tough.
You make your work and you can't ask for approval when you're doing it. Otherwise, it's going to be untruthful in some way.
I got involved, for the most part, in the actual song construction, lyrics even. I didn't want to write the lyrics, but if there was a howler in there, I definitely pointed it out. Just trying to bring it up to a higher level. Of course, after a couple records, people get fed up with that. That's fine.
I'm the band leader. That's not to say that the other people are my minions - they all put in a tremendous amount of personality, and push the music in ways I would never expect.
I'm a producer in the old-school way - not just some slacker working on Pro Tools.
Making those CDs, signing them, numbering them, packing them. It takes hundreds of hours, but it's worth it because I'm able to do the thing I love.
Maybe in the future I'll put out someone's one-off project, but generally I don't have time.
When I walk around New York now, there are so many ghosts. I find it very uncomfortable. There were many hard years, and I never really achieved any kind of comfortable financial success, so I just associate it with struggle. When I had a chance to get out, I was elated.
Nina Simone was an entertainer. Bob Dylan was an entertainer. Anyone that can occupy a piece of music and make the air catch on fire at that moment is a true entertainer. That's how I view it. That's what I was meant to do. I love doing it. That's why I'm on earth.
I really wanted to get to the animal core of rock music and eliminate anything that wasn't necessary.
It wouldn't interest me to try to sound like Cop or something. It would be silly and soul-crushing.
As far as playing playing festivals and everything, I feel like that's what I was born to do. I'm an entertainer, hopefully in the best sense.
Playing an old record doesn't interest me at all. It's exactly the opposite of what I want to do.
I'm always trying to push myself into unfamiliar places with the music, sometimes without success, I have to admit. But I'd rather be there than relying on a style that people recognize and want to follow.
I wanted to challenge myself and move into something new. I felt that using the name Swans and the sonic attitude that that engenders was what I needed to move forward musically, and it's led to lots of new things.
The sexuality of children - there's a lot friction there. That tension interests me a lot.
I don't throw my body down on the stage at all anymore because I'm sure I'd snap like a twig.
I used to routinely break my ribs doing stupid things onstage, but I have a healthy fear of breaking my bones now.
You find ways to push yourself into the sound through repetition. It doesn't stay the same. It morphs constantly.
The goal is ecstasy, but I don't want to make some sort of saccharine pop music. I want to make something that's completely uncompromising: the best possible music ever made.
I don't want to sound like everybody else.
I like loud electric guitars because I like how you can just lose your entire being in the sound.
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