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  • One of the things that Teller and I are obsessed with, one of the reasons that we're in magic, is the difference between fantasy and reality. That is the subject that, if you have a brain in your head, is always dealt with in magic. The smarter the tricks you're doing, the more that' s an important thing.

    "Voodoo and Violence". Interview with Steve Kurtz, reason.com. April 1994.
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